Why you wanna censor me?


#1

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Majority of my posts have been deleted!
Why ?

I have read the community guidelines. I don’t think I have violated any of those.

Whoever is deleting it, do you care to respond back on why are you deleting my posts before deleting it ?
Are you scared of freedom of speech ?

Here are topics links which have been deleted :
https://discuss.fsmk.org/t/which-platform-will-be-feasible-for-us-to-communicate/174
https://discuss.fsmk.org/t/which-platform-will-be-feasible-for-us-to-communicate/173


#2

Hi @superuser
I think this issue of “freedom of speech” is a recurring theme in most of your conversations on different channels.

There was a discussion taking place on fsmk-discuss telegram group where I was conveying the decision of the EC to migrate to freer platforms. I am copy-pasting content from fsmk-discuss telegram group below for reference. I was supposed to post the EC’s decisions to discourse to call for suggestions based on certain specifications and you posted a biased survey twice. Since your posts would distract the others from the EC post, both your related posts were deleted. The official EC post is here Migration to free platforms for communication

Now see your posts
https://discuss.fsmk.org/t/which-platform-will-be-feasible-for-us-to-communicate/174
https://discuss.fsmk.org/t/which-platform-will-be-feasible-for-us-to-communicate/173

I have highlighted the part where I found you to be over-stepping your brief and even raised it in the conversation. Please see the content in bold below

This is not censoring but administrative cleanup.
Best wishes
Vikram

Vikram Vincent1/16/16
The formal stance is that we will reach out to all irrespective of platform but we will make all efforts to move our internal infrastructure to freer platforms
Irc is too old. After using Telegram and WhatsApp, people will not want that
Kishan Gupta bmsit
1/16/16
There are lots of good GUI clients. The difference between IRC and XMPP won’t even be noticeable
Vikram Vincent
1/16/16
We need to identify good replacements. Not bring in the i0586
Ram Fsftn
1/16/16
Please do look at scrollback.io for that :blush:
It is a mix of telegram with irc’s power
Sudheesh Shetty
1/16/16
Conversations for android
Ram Fsftn
1/16/16
http://scrollback.io/
Sudheesh Shetty
1/16/16
Xmpp client
Kishan Gupta bmsit
1/16/16
Yeah, ScrollBack is one possible advantage for IRC
Vikram Vincent
1/16/16
We will move the discussion to Discourse so that we can identify the best tools for our purpose
Kishan Gupta bmsit
1/16/16
One other reason I was thinking of IRC is that messages are less persistent. Even though we can have IRC logs, they are not convenient to use. This would force people to have important discussions on Discourse or the mailinglists
Vikram Vincent
1/16/16
Let us restrain the urge to discuss everything here
Ram Fsftn
1/16/16
And it is also self hosted and AGPL’d :blush:
https://github.com/scrollback/scrollback
GitHub
scrollback/scrollback
scrollback - Embeddable cross-platform chat for communities
‍Akshay mmc&ri mysore
1/16/16
hmm. so there’s no official xmpp channel yet, is there?
Vikram Vincent
1/16/16
We need to set it up
We would need to look for secure and privacy respecting options
Rahimanuddin Shaik
1/16/16
Reduced patent fee encourages closed working style and selling innovations.
‍Akshay mmc&ri mysore
1/16/16
good. prosody works fine and is easy to set up. If you’re looking for suggestions.
Vikram Vincent
1/16/16
Let me start a discussion on discourse
We will delete all our groups on Telegram including this one
Else it might force even the hardcore people to discuss here
‍Akshay mmc&ri mysore
1/16/16
you can’t delete groups!
maybe, if after setting up and giving it a few weeks.
Vikram Vincent
1/16/16
Yes, we can delete the ones which use Fsmk name :slight_smile:
‍Akshay mmc&ri mysore
1/16/16
that’d be futile considering how anyone can create another group
Vikram Vincent
1/16/16
Sure, but we would have an official communication channel
One that is on a free platform.
Rahul kondi
1/16/16
After I am done with my final year project, IRC experience will be a lot smoother on Scrollback.
So we won’t lose anything.
We can always be independent of Scrollback
Even when we have our own instance.
Vikram Vincent
1/16/16
Is it secure, allows encryption and respects privacy?
I think we will have to come up with specifications for our next platform
Rahul kondi
1/16/16
No encryption AFAIK. But we should be able to tweak it.
But why encryption when our communications are meant to br public ?
Be*
Abhiram
1/16/16
We’re looking at FOSS alternatives for real time instant messaging which offers concurrency, storage & group features.
Ball’s in your court… Feel free to experiment & let us know what’s a good replacement.
Vikram Vincent
1/16/16
Whose id is superuser on discourse?
Why is that person trying to promote products instead of waiting for me to post the decision of the EC with more details?
Abhiram
1/16/16
Sorry, what person?
Vikram Vincent
1/16/16
I deleted the post twice since it put up a biased survey
Rahul kondi
1/16/16
O.o


#3

Hello @vincentvikram

Just FYI, I have NOT raised any concern regarding anything in any of the channels. Rather I have seen few others raising issue of “freedom of speech” in different channels. Please be sure with your facts!

Where is this fsmk-discuss telegram group ?
Is this a secrete/closed group limited only for FSMK members ?
How can one join and take part in these discussions ?
It would be better if you have these kind of discussions on open platform where anyone can join.

Sorry, I’m not part of that group. I can’t make sure that the pasted content is same as what was discussed.

That wasn’t a biased survey. :blush:

You could have replied to that topic requesting for a change, if you had felt it is biased.
Deleting the post was not the ONLY solution.
You are just taking autocratic decision.

Oh! Nice. :smiley:


#4

Hi Sagar @superuser
Why are you playing games? Please work on your GSoC project.
Best wishes